Gamer Education – How to Avoid Scams on Second Life Marketplace

Hi everyone! This is Velvet (VelvetPurrsons in-world). I’ve been hard at work on this website, lately, in the hopes that it will be easier for our customers to use. The wiki is dead. Long live the wiki.

Today I’d like to share a blog post based on a notecard that I circulated in 2019. In the year I’ve spent working as a CSR for K.R. Engineering, I’ve found myself dealing with a lot of pirated tables. Residents come to me because their table locked up during an update, and it turns out that they purchased it on Marketplace thinking that they were getting a legitimate pre-owned table. It breaks my heart when I have to explain to these residents that they’ve fallen victim to a scam, and that there’s nothing I can do to make it right. They feel duped, they’ve lost their money, and now they can’t even play their game. It sucks.

Pre-owned tables on Marketplace can seem like a great deal. However, most “used” tables are in fact pirated, and there’s often no way to tell legitimate tables from pirated ones. Whenever we suspect that a table is pirated, or if a table is so old that we cannot trace its original purchase back to us, we cannot support or replace it. Because of this, I would urge you to consider your options carefully, and to buy a brand new game license from us if you can. We can track your purchases. We offer free support, updates, and redeliveries for life. You can always reach us. In my opinion, spending a little more to ensure that you can get help is worth it.

I’ll break the most essential info down into a few bullet points.

  1. Most pirated Greedy Greedy tables fall within the 1.9x generation (1.92, 1.94, and 1.97 being the most common). This was the last generation of tables that didn’t need to communicate with G.SL to run, which means that our system won’t identify them as being pirated.
  2. 1.92 and 1.94 tables are so old that Marketplace didn’t even exist when they were around. If someone tells you that they originally bought their 1.92 or 1.94 table from us off of MP, this is not true. We never sold these games on MP, and would certainly not continue to sell them today.
  3. The 1.9x tables used an update script that no longer works. Therefore, when you try to update them, they lock up. If you have a 1.9x table that you purchased directly from us, we can help you get updated. If not, there’s nothing we can do to unlock the tables. They will be useless to you.
  4. Newer generation games can also be pirated. Pirates do this by removing a particular script from the table that would otherwise tell our server, “Hey, pirated table over here!” When this causes problems, the table becomes unusable or cannot be updated. This is called the “[Game] Gaming.SL API” script (where [Game] is the  name of your game, such as Lifestyle), and you can check the contents of a table yourself to see if it is there.
  5. Again: We cannot offer support for pirated tables. We can’t fix issues or give you an update, because the table did not originate with us.
  6. PIRATED TABLES CAN STILL STATE THAT THEY WERE MADE BY KARSTEN RUTLEDGE. It’s a myth that copybotted items will have a different creator listed than the original creator. You can learn more about piracy, copybotting, and exploits in this article.
  7. Our official Marketplace storefront is located here, and nowhere else.

So, what is my advice to you? Obviously, the best way to avoid getting scammed is to purchase your games directly from us. You’ll pay more, but you are getting lifetime support and updates included in that price. We’ve been here since almost the start of SL, and we’ll be here until the end.

If you do want to buy a used table on Marketplace, I hope you will review this information and make an informed purchase. If someone is selling a second-hand table, ask them if you can come see the table in SL. (Their reaction will let you know if they’re a real person, or just an account selling botted wares.) Ask them where they got the table. Ask them when they got the table. Ask them if they purchased it on an alt. If it’s a 1.9x generation table, be especially wary. Look at the name of the table if you’re buying in person — if it has extra numbers after the vX.XX (for example, if the table is labeled v2.34 17), that means it was copied seventeen times in a pirate’s inventory.

If you have questions about a Marketplace listing, feel free to contact us! I’ll gladly tell you if it’s a legitimate listing from our company, or if I feel like it’s a scam. I’d rather take the time to answer your questions and look into the matter with you than have to tell you that you lost money buying a now useless table.

I hope this info was useful, and happy gaming!